[(210-26) Petition to Amend the Zoning Ordinance to Add Mini-Storage Facility as a Special Permit Use in the CB-3 Zoning District, subject to the condition that it be located entirely below grade. Common Council referral.]

HOUSE ON THIS PROPERTY, AND WE NEGLECTED TO SUBMIT THIS TO THE TWO WESTCHESTER COUNTY BECAUSE IT ABUTS WESTCHESTER COUNTY PROPERTY. SO THAT''S THE REASON THAT THEY''RE BACK AGAIN WITH THIS ONE. UH, DO WE HAVE ANY DO YOU HAVE ANY SAY REGARDING THIS ONE? NO. SO THIS ONE, ORIGINALLY WE HAD IT, UH, CLOSER TO THE STREET, AND WE MOVED IT BACK, AS I KNOW THERE''S A FEW NEW MEMBERS HERE, BUT I''M SURE THE ONES THAT WERE HERE KNOW THAT WE MOVED IT BACK 15FT TO MITIGATE, UM, SOME DISTURBANCE OF THE STEEP SLOPE AND THE ROCK OUTCROP.

THE ROCK OUTCROPPINGS.

STEEP SLOPES.

AND EXCAVATE AS MUCH. AND THEN THERE WAS NOT GOING TO BE EXCAVATED UNDERNEATH THE GARAGE.

SO THAT''S EXACTLY.

THE BASEMENT WAS REDUCED IN SIZE SO THAT YOU WERE WORKING WITH THE SLOPE OF THE LAND.

CORRECT.

AND THEN THE AMOUNT.

OF AND THEN OBVIOUSLY WITH THIS ONE, WE WOULD ABIDE BY THE LAST, UH, RESOLUTION THAT YOU GUYS PUT IN PLACE, UH, IN APPROVING IT. I MEAN, UNLESS THERE''S ANYTHING NEW, OBVIOUSLY WE WOULD ABIDE BY THAT AS WELL.

AND YOU HAVEN''T CHANGED ANYTHING FROM THAT, THAT DESIGN? UM, NO, I HONESTLY, WE HAVE A DIFFERENT ENGINEER THAT''S DOING IT, SO I THERE MIGHT BE A FEW MINOR TWEAKS TO IT AS FAR AS WATER MANAGEMENT, BUT BASICALLY IT''S EXACTLY THE SAME. OKAY. I MEAN, I WILL LOOK IT OVER AND I WILL, YOU KNOW, FOR THE NEXT PACKAGE THAT YOU GET FOR THE NEXT MEETING, I''LL NOTE ANY CHANGES THAT WERE, YOU KNOW, DONE THAT WERE DIFFERENT THAN THE PREVIOUS ONE, BUT IT''S BASICALLY THE EXACT SAME DESIGN. IT''S JUST THAT HE COULDN''T TAKE THE OTHER ENGINEER''S DRAWING, JUST BASICALLY PUT HIS NAME ON IT.

SO HE DID DID IT A NEW THING HIMSELF.

ALSO, THESE PLANS BOTH WILL BE, UM, REFERRED OUT TO STAFF, INCLUDING DPW FOR COMMENTS. SO THEY''LL BE LOOKING AT IT AS A BRAND NEW APPLICATION.

AS A BRAND NEW APPLICATION.

AND, UM, OR WILL BOTH PLANS BE REFERRED TO THE COUNTY? YES.

OKAY. YES. GREAT.

ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO. HE ANSWERED MY QUESTION.

OKAY. I NEED A MOTION TO SCHEDULE THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR JULY 21ST.

MOTION.

WE HAVE A MOTION. I NEED A SECOND. WE HAVE A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

NEXT ITEM ON THIS EVENING''S AGENDA IS A PUBLIC HEARING FOR 1148 MAMARONECK AVENUE. THIS IS A SITE PLAN AMENDMENT FOR AN IN-GROUND SWIMMING POOL ON AN ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE SITE.

UH, WE HAD PREVIOUSLY APPROVED THIS IN 2013. THE APPROVAL HAS EXPIRED, SO I GUESS WE HAVE TO TREAT THIS AS A BRAND NEW ISSUE. AND I NEED A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

SO MOVED.

JUST TO CLARIFY, WAS 2023, NOT 2013 2023.

I''M SORRY. YES.

SO MOVED.

AND WE HAVE A SECOND. AND ALL IN FAVOR. AYE. OKAY. IS THERE ANYONE HERE FOR 1148 MAMARONECK AVENUE? OKAY. UH.

THEY WERE SENT AN EMAIL ABOUT THEM. REMINDER ABOUT THE MEETING.

OKAY. UH. I GUESS WE CAN TAKE PUBLIC COMMENTS IF THERE ARE ANY.

SEE IF ANYBODY''S HERE TO COMMENT. AND, UM, OR YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, HOLD OVER AND SEE IF MAYBE THEY THOUGHT THEY''D BE LATER ON THE AGENDA. COME IN A LITTLE BIT.

IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO COMMENT ON? 1148 MAMARONECK AVENUE? OKAY. SO LET''S KEEP THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN IN CASE THE APPLICANT GETS HERE. AND IF THE APPLICANT DOESN''T GET HERE, I GUESS WE PUMPED IT TILL NEXT MONTH. OKAY. NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA. THIS IS A PETITION TO AMEND THE ZONING ORDINANCE TO ADD MANY STORAGE FACILITY AS A SPECIAL PERMIT. USE IN THE CB THREE ZONING DISTRICT, SUBJECT TO THE CONDITION THAT IT BE LOCATED ENTIRELY BELOW GRADE.

THIS IS A REFERRAL FROM THE COMMON COUNCIL COUNSELOR.

PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF.

GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN.

MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. MY NAME IS MARK WEINGARTEN. I''M A PARTNER IN THE LAW FIRM OF DEL BELLO, DANIELLE AND WEINGARTEN, WISE AND WHITAKER. AND IT''S MY PLEASURE TO BE HERE THIS EVENING REPRESENTING 275 MAIN STREET ASSOCIATES, L.P., IN CONNECTION WITH ITS PETITION TO AMEND THE CITY''S ZONING ORDINANCE TO PERMIT SELF-STORAGE IN THE LOWER, BELOW GRADE LEVEL OF 275 MAIN STREET. THE PETITIONER IS A RELATED COMPANY OF ARGENT VENTURES, A VERY LARGE AND WELL-KNOWN REAL ESTATE COMPANY WHICH IS CURRENTLY THE GROUND

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LESSEE OF 275 MAIN STREET, BUT IS ALSO THE CONTRACT VENDOR TO ACTUALLY PURCHASE THE FEE AND WILL BE THE OWNER OF THE BUILDING. WE HOPE SHORTLY. I''M JOINED TONIGHT BY MANAGING DIRECTOR CLAY MCPHAIL OF ARJUN, AS WELL AS RAMONA MILLER, WHO YOU WILL HEAR FROM IN A FEW MOMENTS. WHO''S THE ASSET MANAGER FOR ARGENT? ARGENT IS A VERTICALLY INTEGRATED, DIVERSIFIED REAL ESTATE INVESTMENT AND DEVELOPMENT FIRM. ITS BEST IN CLASS, WHICH IS PURCHASED OVER $3 BILLION IN REAL ESTATE ASSETS SINCE ITS INCEPTION. IN ADDITION TO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY OF THIS APPLICATION, ARJUN HAS MADE A VERY LARGE INVESTMENT IN THE CITY OF WHITE PLAINS BY PURCHASING ONE NORTH BROADWAY FOR 45 HAMILTON, AS WELL AS 44 SOUTH BROADWAY. THEY BELIEVE IN THE CITY. THE PROPERTY ITSELF HERE 275 MAIN IS 2.3 ACRES.

IT''S LOCATED IN THE CB THREE DISTRICT. IT IS LOCATED, AS YOU ARE ALL AWARE, AND WE WILL HAVE SOME PICTURES IN A MOMENT AT THE INTERSECTION OF MAIN STREET AND EJ CONROY DRIVE WITH FRONTAGE ON HAMILTON AVENUE. IT WAS THE FORMER LOCATION OF SEARS AND THEN THE WALMART FOR MANY YEARS BEFORE THAT. IT IS CURRENTLY IMPROVED WITH A THREE STORY, 241,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING WITH A SIX LEVEL PARKING STRUCTURE CONTAINING 1241 PARKING SPACES, WHICH SERVICES THE SUBJECT BUILDING, AS WELL AS ONE NORTH BROADWAY AND 445 HAMILTON. THE PARKING IS ALL CONNECTED. THE BUILDING IS CURRENTLY VACANT AND HAS BEEN UNABLE TO ATTRACT LARGE SCALE RETAIL TENANCY, AS HAD BEEN ITS HISTORY. THIS PROPOSAL RESPONDS TO THE CHANGING MARKETPLACE AND WE REINVIGORATE THE BUILDING AND RETURN IT TO A CONTRIBUTING RATE OF STATUS IN YOUR DOWNTOWN, THE BASEMENT OF THE PROPERTY IS WHICH IS UNDERGROUND, IS THE FORMER LOCATION OF THE SEARS AUTO CENTER AND IS THE PERFECT LOCATION FOR MANY SELF STORAGE.

THE AESTHETIC CONCERNS, WHICH ARE OFTEN RAISED FOR MANY SELF STORAGE IN THE DOWNTOWN, ARE NOT APPLICABLE HERE, AS THE LANGUAGE IN THE PROPOSED TEXT WILL REQUIRE ANY STORAGE IN THE CB THREE MINI STORAGE TO BE UNDERGROUND, SO YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO SEE IT FROM FROM ANYWHERE ON THE ROADWAYS. UH, ALL LOADING AND UNLOADING FOR THE STORAGE WILL TAKE PLACE INSIDE THE BUILDING AS WELL AS MANY. STORAGE IS NOT CURRENTLY A PERMITTED USE IN CB THREE. SO ARJUN HAS PETITIONED THE CITY TO PERMIT MANY STORAGE IN THE CB THREE SUBJECT TO THE CONDITION. AS MENTIONED THAT THE STORAGE UNITS ALL BE UNDERGROUND OR BELOW GRADE. ON A RELATED NOTE, PETITIONER WILL BE FOLLOWING THIS APPLICATION AND WILL BE BACK BEFORE YOU TO REVITALIZE THE REST OF THE BUILDING WITH RECREATIONAL AND OTHER USES, WHICH RAMONA WILL SHOW YOU IN A MOMENT. HOWEVER, I''D LIKE TO STRESS THAT FOR THIS REFERRAL, WE ARE BEFORE YOU ON THE PROPOSED TEXT CHANGE LANGUAGE FOR THE MINI STORAGE.

WE HAVE NOT YET FINALIZED THE PLANS ON THE SITE PLAN APPLICATION, AS WE ARE FINALIZING LEASES FOR THE TENANCIES. THOSE PLANS WILL BE BROUGHT FORTH IN FRONT OF YOU SHORTLY, BUT WE WILL SHARE WITH YOU THE CONCEPT PLAN SO YOU''LL GET AN IDEA OF WHAT WE WANT TO DO WITH THE BUILDING HAVING TO DO WITH THE FITNESS, USE AND CERTAIN RECREATIONAL USES THAT WILL BE DESCRIBED TO YOU. BUT AGAIN, WHAT''S BEFORE YOU TONIGHT ON REFERRAL FROM THE COMMON COUNCIL IS THE MINI STORAGE AND THE REQUEST FOR THE CHANGE TO THE CB THREE. SO AT THIS POINT, I''D LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO TO MONA MILLER, WHO''S GOING TO WALK YOU THROUGH THE CONCEPT PLANS FOR THE FOR THE BUILDING. THANK YOU.

IF I MAY INTERJECT BEFORE THAT.

SO TONIGHT YOU''RE BEING ASKED TO LOOK AT THIS PROPOSED AMENDMENT AS IT APPLIES TO ALL OF THE CB THREE DISTRICT, NOT JUST THIS ONE PROPERTY. AND THE COUNCIL NEEDS A LETTER FROM THIS BOARD SAYING WHETHER THE PETITION IS APPROPRIATE AS TO FORM. AND IT''S BEEN PREVIEWED BY STAFF AND IT IS UM, AND THAT IT IS, UH, APPROPRIATE TO SCHEDULE A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE ZONING AMENDMENT BEFORE THE COMMON COUNCIL. AND LASTLY, YOU CAN MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON THE ADVISABILITY OF, UH, ADOPTION OF THAT PETITION, UH, AMENDMENT.

CORRECT. I MEAN, CAN YOU DESCRIBE OTHER PROPERTIES THAT ARE IN THE CB THREE DISTRICT? I LOOK BRIEFLY AT THE ZONING MAP, BUT.

UH, THE CB THREE IS LARGELY THE AREA AROUND HERE. IT''S LESS INTENSE THAN THE CB FOUR. UM, 60 SOUTH BROADWAY ALSO IS IN THE CB THREE. THE OLD PAVILION MALL. UM, AND THE AREA ACROSS THE STREET. IT''S IT''S KIND OF NOT THE UR4, WHICH IS LIKE HEAVY DUTY DEVELOPMENT. THE CB FOUR, WHICH IS, UM, ALSO REALLY HIGH RISE BUILDINGS. UM, CB THREE IS A LITTLE BIT OF A STEP DOWN. UM, BUT STILL A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT.

IF I COULD, I''D VENTURE TO SUGGEST THAT THERE IS NO OTHER BASEMENT PROPERTY SIMILAR TO THIS WHICH ISN''T BEING UTILIZED FOR PARKING. WHAT''S DIFFERENT ABOUT THIS BUILDING IS THE PARKING STRUCTURE IS UP ABOVE THE BUILDING. IF YOU KNOW, IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT IT, THE BUILDING IS THE THREE LEVELS

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AND THEN THE PARKING IS UP ABOVE IT, WHICH WHICH GOES FOR ALL THREE OF THE BUILDINGS.

THAT''S WHY THEY BUILT THIS FOR AN AUTO USE. A SEARS AUTO IS WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY BUILT FOR.

WHY WE HAVE THIS VERY LARGE BASEMENT, WHY WE CAN FIT THE STORAGE DOWN ALL BELOW GROUND, AND WHY WE THINK THIS IS A RATHER UNIQUE PROPERTY, WHICH IS WHY WE''RE DOING.

IT THIS WAY, THAT IT''S UNIQUE TO OTHER PROPERTIES IN IN THE CB THREE.

IT WOULD BE RARE TO HAVE 90,000FT OF UNUSED BASEMENT IN A BUILDING IN WHITE PLAINS THAT''S NOT BEING USED FOR PARKING OR ANYTHING ELSE. I WOULD SUGGEST.

RIGHT. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. I''M RAMONA MILLER.

RAMONA MILLER. UM, THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO LISTEN.

UH, SELF STORAGE, 275 MAIN. SO HERE IS A SNAPSHOT OF WHAT WE PLAN TO HAVE. THE OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING, UH, LOOK LIKE FROM THIS ANGLE, PRETTY MUCH THE ONLY THING WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT OF SIGNAGE HERE THAT SAYS SELF STORAGE. EVERYTHING ELSE IN THE BUILDING, WHICH I''LL GET INTO A LITTLE BIT FURTHER. AND THEN AGAIN FOR THE FOR SITE PLAN, UH, FITNESS USER TRAMPOLINE PARK AND PICKLEBALL USER IS WHAT WE HAVE SIGNED UP NOW. AND THEN THERE''D BE A VACANT SPACE THAT WE PLAN TO LEASE IN THE NEAR FUTURE. UM, AND THEN JUST JUMPING RIGHT INTO SELF STORAGE, THIS IS WHAT THE LOWER LEVEL WOULD LOOK LIKE IN THEORY. UM, HERE''S JUST A FLOOR PLAN OF THE SPACE. IT''S ABOUT. THIS AREA HERE IS ABOUT 90,000FT. THIS IS SHARED LOADING, UH, WITH THE REST OF THE BUILDING. SO THAT WOULDN''T BE SELF STORAGE. IT''S JUST THIS THIS RECTANGLE HERE. UM, AND AGAIN, THIS IS ALL UNDERGROUND.

NO WINDOWS, NOTHING. UM, WE''D HAVE A SMALL. I''M SORRY. I LOST MY MOUSE. WE''D HAVE A SMALL OFFICE HERE ABOUT 1800FT.

WE''VE INSTALL A RAMP, UH, FOR TROLLEYS, CARTS AND WHATNOT, AND THEN SOME. A FEW ADDITIONAL PARKING SPOTS. BUT THIS IS WHERE ANY LARGE LOADING WOULD GO INTO IT. I''LL SHOW A TURNING STUDY THAT IT CAN HAVE A 40 FOOT TRAILER. WE CAN TURN IN THERE. AND THAT''S WHERE ANY OF THAT LARGE, UM, LOADING AND UNLOADING WOULD GO INTO. WE''D ALSO BRING TWO ELEVATORS DOWN FROM THE PARKING GARAGE, UM, WHICH I DON''T KNOW IF YOU GUYS RECALL, BUT THEY ARE SEARS.

WALMART. THEY''RE THEY''RE HUGE.

UM, AND THAT WOULD JUST BE FOR PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, IF THEY''RE COMING TO GRAB 1 OR 2 THINGS, THEY COULD POP DOWN EARLY OR POP DOWN QUICK AND GET BACK UP QUICK. UM, FROM THERE. THIS IS THE LOADING AREA FROM THE OUTSIDE. SO IT WOULD GO THROUGH THE LOADING, WHICH IS SHARED WITH ONE NORTH BROADWAY, AND THEN IT WOULD BE ALSO SHARED WITH 275 MAINS. UH, THE OTHER TENANTS, UH, RIGHT OFF OF ONE NORTH BROADWAY, UM, WHICH IS RIGHT HERE FROM THE SITE PLAN, UH, JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME NUMBERS AS FAR AS TRAFFIC GOES, UH, PEAK TIME FOR SELF STORAGE IS ON A SATURDAY, AND THAT IS NINE TRIPS. SO THERE WOULD BE VERY MINIMAL TRAFFIC IMPACT WITH THIS USE.

SAY NINE TRIPS.

NINE TRIPS. YEAH. UM, AND THE LOWEST IS LIKE FOUR IS FOR TRIPS, WHICH IS ON A WEEKDAY MORNING. UH, WHICH IS REALLY ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MAKES IT BENEFICIAL IS THAT IT DOESN''T HAVE A TRAFFIC IMPACT. THIS IS WHAT THE LOADING AREA LOOKS LIKE RIGHT NOW. IN ALL OF ITS GLORY. AND THEN WE WOULD PUT A, UM, A STOREFRONT IN THERE THAT WOULD MIMIC, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU SEE ELSEWHERE. UM, BUT AGAIN, ALL UNDERGROUND. SO THIS WOULDN''T BE SEEN FROM THE STREET. AND HERE''S THE TURNING.

STUDY TWO. AND THEN GOING INTO THE REST OF THE BUILDING, UH, THESE ARE THE FLOOR PLANS. UM, THIS IS THE FIRST FLOOR. SO THIS IS ENTRANCE OFF OF MAIN.

UH, THIS IS WHERE WE PUT A, UH.

I''M SORRY, A FITNESS USER, AND THEN WE HAVE A LEASE OUT WITH A PICKLEBALL USER OVER HERE, WHICH, JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA, UM, WHICH IS PROBABLY TOO RELEVANT, BUT YOU GO UNDER UNDER GRADE LEVEL ON THE HAMILTON SIDE WITH THE SLOPE.

UM, SO THIS IS GREAT OVER HERE.

THIS IS BELOW GRADE HERE. UM, THIS SIDE SUITE FOR HERE. WE DO NOT HAVE A TENANT FOR. THAT''S WHAT WE ANTICIPATE ONCE WE SIGN THESE THREE LEASES. UM, WE''LL EASILY GET THAT FOURTH TENANT.

AND THEN THIS IS SUITE THREE IS A TRAMPOLINE PARK. AND THEY WOULD ENTER OFF OF THE PLAZA.

UM, WE CREATE AGAIN. WE''LL COME BACK FOR THIS IN A MORE DETAIL, BUT THERE''D BE AN ENTRANCE OFF OF THE PLAZA HERE FOR THE HAMILTON SIDE. UM, WE HAD A DROP OFF STUDY DONE JUST FOR

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THE FOR THE RETAIL USE. THIS WOULDN''T IMPACT OR HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH SELF STORAGE. ALL SELF STORAGE WOULD BE UNDERGROUND. UM, BUT JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT WE''VE DONE HERE, AND THEN THIS IS A RENDERING OF WHAT WE PLAN TO DO FOR THE HAMILTON SIDE, JUST TO BEAUTIFY THAT A LITTLE BIT.

THERE WE GO.

SO JUST TO CLARIFY FOR THE BOARD, YOU''RE NOT BEING ASKED TO OFFER ANY KIND OF OPINION ON. IT''S JUST A PREVIEW OF WHAT YOU WILL SEE COMING. ALSO, THIS PETITION WOULD MAKE MANY STORAGE, UM, A SPECIAL PERMIT USE THAT REQUIRES A PUBLIC HEARING. SO THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK TO ACTUALLY GET THE SPECIAL PERMIT TO DO THE MINI STORAGE.

RIGHT. AND THAT SPECIAL PERMIT WOULD BE FROM THE. COMMON COUNCIL.

RIGHT. BUT AGAIN AND AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO MENTION THIS IS FAR ALONG. WE''VE MET WITH CITY STAFF WHEN WE FOR THIS REQUEST FOR THE MINI STORAGE, WE WERE REQUIRED TO SHOW WHAT ARE WE DOING WITH THE REST OF THE BUILDING. THERE''S GOING TO BE AESTHETIC. SO WE''VE STARTED TO DEVELOP ALL THOSE PLANTS. SO ALL THAT HAS TO COME BACK BEFORE YOU. AND AS HAS BEEN POINTED OUT, ALL THAT IS BEFORE YOU NOW IS THAT PETITION AND QUESTIONING AS TO WHETHER, AGAIN, SELF STORAGE HALL IS SOLELY ON THE WOULD BE PERMITTED IN THE CBD AND IF THAT IS, IF THAT IS OKAY, THEN IF THIS AND WE WOULD GO BACK THROUGH THIS PROCESS WITH THE COMMON COUNCIL AND PUBLIC HEARINGS TO GET THAT APPROVED, WE HOPE THAT YOU WOULD BE IN AGREEMENT ON THAT AND GIVE YOUR ENDORSEMENT TO IT. BUT THEN WE WOULD BE BACK TO AN ENTIRE PROCESS WITH REGARD TO THE SITE PLAN, APPROVAL OF THE BUILDING WITH REGARD TO THE REST OF THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE PLANNED HERE.

OKAY. COMMENTS START WITH SERENA.

I THINK IT''S A VERY INTERESTING CONCEPT. I NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, GOING UNDERGROUND FOR THAT. ARE THERE ANY CONCERNS? AND I KNOW IT''S NOT AT THIS POINT FOR SECURITY OR ANYTHING BECAUSE IT''S UNDERGROUND. IS THERE GOING TO BE MORE

[(211-26) 126 Woodcrest Avenue; R1-5 Zoning District – One Year Extension of the Site Plan Approval for a Single Family House. Environmentally Sensitive Site.]

SECURITY, LESS SECURITY.? THE OFFICE WOULD BE HANDS. AND THEN THERE THIS GAUGE OR THE, UH, LOADING DOCK GOES TO ONE NORTH BROADWAY. THEN THAT''S ALWAYS MEANT.

IT WILL BE LIKE PEOPLE COMING.

SO HOW DO YOU JUST GET PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO THE MINI STORAGE, YOU KNOW, GOING IN AND NOT JUST ANYBODY THAT''S IN THE BUILDING. SO WILL YOU HAVE LIKE IF THEY HAVE A STORAGE UNIT, DO THEY GET A UH, IS SOMETHING GATED THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO SCAN? YEAH. THERE''S A GATE TO GET INTO THE LOADING DOCK. SO THAT WOULD BE DOWN. THEY''D HAVE TO BUS AND THEN SECURITY GUARD WOULD LET THEM IN. ALL RIGHT.

UM, AND THEN WHAT WE PROBABLY DO IS THEY HAVE A CODE.

RIGHT.

OKAY. I THINK THAT''S A LOT OF THE SELF STORAGE.

DOES THAT HAVE THAT ANYWAY? YEAH. YEAH.

OKAY. AND I''LL ALSO MENTION THAT IN OUR CONVERSATIONS WITH THE CITY WHICH ARE INTERESTING, THEY''VE RECOGNIZED HOW LITTLE IN THE WAY OF CARS THIS IS GOING TO GENERATE COMPARED TO OTHER USES IT''S HAD IN THE PAST. AND THE CITY HAS EVEN BEEN INQUIRING WITH US TO MAYBE THERE MIGHT BE PERMIT PARKING AVAILABLE FOR OTHERS IN THIS BUILDING IF WE WIND UP WITH A SURPLUS, BECAUSE OF HOW LITTLE IN THE WAY OF PARKING THAT THIS IS GOING TO GENERATE. SO WE ARE STARTING TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS AS WELL.